| Published 2009 |
In six minutes 150 square miles of forest were knocked over. In Spirit Lake, north of the volcano, the
blast caused a huge water wave to strip trees as high as 850 feet above pre-eruption water levels The
total energy output, on May 18, equaled 400 million tons of TNT, about the same energy as 20,000
Hiroshima-size atomic bombs could have produced.
As interesting as the volcanic eruption at St. Helens was in itself, what was even more interesting was
what geologists found after studying the site once the mountain simmered down. Major geological
changes had occurred in a very short time. As Dr. Steven Austin says, the eruption and the processes
involved “serve as a miniature laboratory for catastrophism.” The potent geologic processes have
challenged the traditional uniformitarian way of thinking regarding how the earth works. 1
Rapidly Formed Stratification
Since 1980 about 400 feet thickness of strata have formed at Mount St. Helens. These deposits were
created by forces such as the initial air blast, the landslide, waves on the lake, mudflows, hot ash flows,
etc. One 25-foot-thick deposit accumulated in less than one day, on June 12, 1980, and contains many
very thin layers of sediment and beds.
Conventional thinking assumes that long seasonal variations or annual changes would be necessary for
such layers to slowly form. Mount St. Helens though has taught us that stratified layers can form very
rapidly by flow processes.
Rapid Erosion
During the volcanic eruptions on Mt. St. Helens, erosion was caused by the steam blast as well as by the
landslide, water waves, pyroclastic flows (hot pumice ash flows) and mudflows. Additional erosion has
since occurred due mainly to sheet flooding and channelized flow of water with some mud flows.
Less than five days after the initial explosion, rills and gullies over 125 feet deep and resembling
badlands topography had already formed. Geologists had assumed it would take hundreds and
thousands of years for such features to form on earth.
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The most significant erosion was caused by mudflows. A mudflow on March 19, 1982 eroded a canyon
system up to 140 feet deep in the Toutle River Valley. This little “Grand Canyon of the Toutle River”
resembles the Grand Canyon of the Colorado River but is only one-fortieth the size. Its formation
provides clues as to how the bigger canyon could have been created. Although the Toutle River canyon
looks like it should have taken long periods of time to form, it obviously was created in a very short time.
Upright Deposited Logs
Powerful waves were generated on Spirit Lake by the landslide. These waves stripped forests adjacent
to the lake and created an enormous log mat made up of millions of trees and covering two square miles
of the lake’s surface. Although most of the trees in the mat were in a prone position, many were seen
floating upright, the root ends submerged and the opposite ends sticking out of the water.
A research team a few years after the volcanic eruption surveyed the lake bottom using sonar and
scuba. Hundreds of upright, fully submerged logs were found in Spirit Lake. As of August in 1985 the
survey team estimated there were 19,000 of these stumps on the floor of the lake with an average height
of 20 feet. Some of the randomly spaced trees were already solidly buried by sediment while others had
no sediment around their bases, indicating they were deposited at different times.
If found in the stratigraphic record, the trees would likely be interpreted according to current theories as
having grown at different levels from multiple forests and been buried over thousands of years of time.
However, the Spirit Lake experience means the ages of “petrified forests” need to be reevaluated.
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Peat Layer in Spirit Lake
Already only a few years after the eruption, layers of peat moss were found in Spirit Lake. The Spirit
Lake peat resembles certain coal beds found in the eastern United States. Both these coal beds and the
Spirit Lake peat are dominated by tree bark and appear to have accumulated beneath floating log mats.
Supposedly coal is formed from organic matter in swamps. Because the accumulation of peat in swamps
is a slow process, conventional geologists have estimated it takes about a thousand years for each inch
of coal to form.
The Spirit Lake peat, which texturally is very similar to coal, shows that all that is needed for coal
formation is burial and slight heating. Coal was already forming in Spirit Lake only a few years after the
Mt. St. Helen’s eruption!
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Surtsey Island
Surtsey (picture above) is an island which in 1963 was born as a result of an undersea volcano off the
coast of Iceland. Surtsey is also a bundle of surprises to geologists who have been studying it. One
geologist wrote, "On Surtsey, only a few months sufficed for a landscape to be created which was so
varied and mature that it was almost beyond belief."
A 2006 article in New Scientist magazine commented, "The island has excited geographers, who marvel
that canyons, gullies and other land features that typically take tens of thousands or millions of years to
form were created in less than a decade."
Biologists too have been amazed by Surtsey. Researchers who reached the island in 1965 didn't find the
flora consisting of simple plants such as lichens and mosses, as they had expected, but were instead
greeted by the green shoots and white flowers of the sea rocket, its roots sunk into the ash and in full
bloom. Soon to appear were lyme grass, sea sandwort, cotton grass and ferns. It took a couple of more
years for the mosses to arrive, and it wasn't until 1970 that lichens made an appearance. This is
noteworthy because according to standard evolutionary theory, mosses and lichen should have
appeared before any more complex plant. The New Scientist article indicated there was no evolutionary
logic to what has happened on Surtsey or neighboring islands. "What came, came," it said.
As for animal life, early arrivals included flies, spiders flying through the air on silken threads, mites riding
on a floating gatepost, and other insects traveling on clumps of grass. Seabirds arrived and began
nesting in 1970, producing chicks just three years after the lava stopped flowing. Other birds brought
seeds which grew rapidly thanks to the bird droppings. Now a regular cycle has been established:
plants supporting insects which attract birds which bring more plants. The Icelandic Institute of Natural
History says, "We now have a fully functioning ecosystem on Surtsey."
Something else to consider about Surtsey is how rapidly it is eroding. It now is only half the size it was in
1967 when the eruptions stopped. One geologist says Surtsey's ash plains will be totally washed away
within a century or so. Fast erosion testifies to the fact that the Earth is young. 2
The Problem With Conventional Dating Methods
Why have these recent events produced features that appear to be thousands or millions of years old
according to the conventional way of looking at things?
Dr. Austin tells of a lava sample he obtained from Mount St. Helens after the eruption, a rock that couldn’t
have been more than eleven years old. He sent the sample to a laboratory that specializes in dating
rocks, but, of course, did not tell the laboratory where he had gotten the rock. The dates the laboratory
gave for the minerals in this eleven-year-old rock were up to 2.8 million years!
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How could this happen? Conventional radioisotope dating looks at the decay of certain minerals in rocks
into other minerals, for instance uranium into lead or potassium into argon or rubidium into strontium,
Scientists determine how much of the new mineral is in a rock and, assuming there was none in the rock
to begin with, they determine the age.
The weaknesses of these dating techniques are the assumptions involved: 1. that the beginning
quantities are known; 2. that there has been a constant rate of decay, and 3. that the decaying process
has happened in a closed system.
The following story might show how such assumptions can lead to false conclusions:
Suppose you are returning to your home from a flight across the country and find it raining “cats and
dogs.”
Being curious as to how long the rain has been falling, you go outside with a yardstick and do some
measuring. It appears the rain is falling at a rate of 1 inch per hour.
You notice a barrel sitting by the side of the house. You put the yardstick into the barrel and find 36
inches of water in it. “Okay,” you say to yourself. “At a rate of one inch per hour, it must have been
raining for 36 hours.”
It is easy to see that our assumptions could lead to a conclusion that could be way off. First, how do we
know there wasn’t water, perhaps a considerable amount of water, in the barrel before the rain started
falling? How do we know the rain has been falling at a constant rate? How do we know that nobody for
some reason could have added tap water to the barrel after the rain had started?
Errors in radioisotope dating are likely for the same reasons. Dr. Austin tells of having rocks from the
same area of the Grand Canyon. Using different radioisotope methods, he came up with widely varying
dates as to the age of the rocks, from 0.84 billion years to 1.4 billion years. 3 LSI
Next
Why evolutionist scientists need long ages.
Some dating methods that show the earth’s age must be measured in thousands of years, not billions.
References
1. http://www.icr.org/article/mt-st-helens-catastrophism/
2. http://creation.com/surtsey-still-surprises
3. http://www.answersingenesis. org/media/video/ondemand/radioisotopes/radioisotopes-age-of-the-earth
(Photos from Wikimedia Commons)
blast caused a huge water wave to strip trees as high as 850 feet above pre-eruption water levels The
total energy output, on May 18, equaled 400 million tons of TNT, about the same energy as 20,000
Hiroshima-size atomic bombs could have produced.
As interesting as the volcanic eruption at St. Helens was in itself, what was even more interesting was
what geologists found after studying the site once the mountain simmered down. Major geological
changes had occurred in a very short time. As Dr. Steven Austin says, the eruption and the processes
involved “serve as a miniature laboratory for catastrophism.” The potent geologic processes have
challenged the traditional uniformitarian way of thinking regarding how the earth works. 1
Rapidly Formed Stratification
Since 1980 about 400 feet thickness of strata have formed at Mount St. Helens. These deposits were
created by forces such as the initial air blast, the landslide, waves on the lake, mudflows, hot ash flows,
etc. One 25-foot-thick deposit accumulated in less than one day, on June 12, 1980, and contains many
very thin layers of sediment and beds.
Conventional thinking assumes that long seasonal variations or annual changes would be necessary for
such layers to slowly form. Mount St. Helens though has taught us that stratified layers can form very
rapidly by flow processes.
Rapid Erosion
During the volcanic eruptions on Mt. St. Helens, erosion was caused by the steam blast as well as by the
landslide, water waves, pyroclastic flows (hot pumice ash flows) and mudflows. Additional erosion has
since occurred due mainly to sheet flooding and channelized flow of water with some mud flows.
Less than five days after the initial explosion, rills and gullies over 125 feet deep and resembling
badlands topography had already formed. Geologists had assumed it would take hundreds and
thousands of years for such features to form on earth.
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The most significant erosion was caused by mudflows. A mudflow on March 19, 1982 eroded a canyon
system up to 140 feet deep in the Toutle River Valley. This little “Grand Canyon of the Toutle River”
resembles the Grand Canyon of the Colorado River but is only one-fortieth the size. Its formation
provides clues as to how the bigger canyon could have been created. Although the Toutle River canyon
looks like it should have taken long periods of time to form, it obviously was created in a very short time.
Upright Deposited Logs
Powerful waves were generated on Spirit Lake by the landslide. These waves stripped forests adjacent
to the lake and created an enormous log mat made up of millions of trees and covering two square miles
of the lake’s surface. Although most of the trees in the mat were in a prone position, many were seen
floating upright, the root ends submerged and the opposite ends sticking out of the water.
A research team a few years after the volcanic eruption surveyed the lake bottom using sonar and
scuba. Hundreds of upright, fully submerged logs were found in Spirit Lake. As of August in 1985 the
survey team estimated there were 19,000 of these stumps on the floor of the lake with an average height
of 20 feet. Some of the randomly spaced trees were already solidly buried by sediment while others had
no sediment around their bases, indicating they were deposited at different times.
If found in the stratigraphic record, the trees would likely be interpreted according to current theories as
having grown at different levels from multiple forests and been buried over thousands of years of time.
However, the Spirit Lake experience means the ages of “petrified forests” need to be reevaluated.
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Peat Layer in Spirit Lake
Already only a few years after the eruption, layers of peat moss were found in Spirit Lake. The Spirit
Lake peat resembles certain coal beds found in the eastern United States. Both these coal beds and the
Spirit Lake peat are dominated by tree bark and appear to have accumulated beneath floating log mats.
Supposedly coal is formed from organic matter in swamps. Because the accumulation of peat in swamps
is a slow process, conventional geologists have estimated it takes about a thousand years for each inch
of coal to form.
The Spirit Lake peat, which texturally is very similar to coal, shows that all that is needed for coal
formation is burial and slight heating. Coal was already forming in Spirit Lake only a few years after the
Mt. St. Helen’s eruption!
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Surtsey Island
Surtsey (picture above) is an island which in 1963 was born as a result of an undersea volcano off the
coast of Iceland. Surtsey is also a bundle of surprises to geologists who have been studying it. One
geologist wrote, "On Surtsey, only a few months sufficed for a landscape to be created which was so
varied and mature that it was almost beyond belief."
A 2006 article in New Scientist magazine commented, "The island has excited geographers, who marvel
that canyons, gullies and other land features that typically take tens of thousands or millions of years to
form were created in less than a decade."
Biologists too have been amazed by Surtsey. Researchers who reached the island in 1965 didn't find the
flora consisting of simple plants such as lichens and mosses, as they had expected, but were instead
greeted by the green shoots and white flowers of the sea rocket, its roots sunk into the ash and in full
bloom. Soon to appear were lyme grass, sea sandwort, cotton grass and ferns. It took a couple of more
years for the mosses to arrive, and it wasn't until 1970 that lichens made an appearance. This is
noteworthy because according to standard evolutionary theory, mosses and lichen should have
appeared before any more complex plant. The New Scientist article indicated there was no evolutionary
logic to what has happened on Surtsey or neighboring islands. "What came, came," it said.
As for animal life, early arrivals included flies, spiders flying through the air on silken threads, mites riding
on a floating gatepost, and other insects traveling on clumps of grass. Seabirds arrived and began
nesting in 1970, producing chicks just three years after the lava stopped flowing. Other birds brought
seeds which grew rapidly thanks to the bird droppings. Now a regular cycle has been established:
plants supporting insects which attract birds which bring more plants. The Icelandic Institute of Natural
History says, "We now have a fully functioning ecosystem on Surtsey."
Something else to consider about Surtsey is how rapidly it is eroding. It now is only half the size it was in
1967 when the eruptions stopped. One geologist says Surtsey's ash plains will be totally washed away
within a century or so. Fast erosion testifies to the fact that the Earth is young. 2
The Problem With Conventional Dating Methods
Why have these recent events produced features that appear to be thousands or millions of years old
according to the conventional way of looking at things?
Dr. Austin tells of a lava sample he obtained from Mount St. Helens after the eruption, a rock that couldn’t
have been more than eleven years old. He sent the sample to a laboratory that specializes in dating
rocks, but, of course, did not tell the laboratory where he had gotten the rock. The dates the laboratory
gave for the minerals in this eleven-year-old rock were up to 2.8 million years!
___________________________________________________________________________________
___________________________________________________________________________________
How could this happen? Conventional radioisotope dating looks at the decay of certain minerals in rocks
into other minerals, for instance uranium into lead or potassium into argon or rubidium into strontium,
Scientists determine how much of the new mineral is in a rock and, assuming there was none in the rock
to begin with, they determine the age.
The weaknesses of these dating techniques are the assumptions involved: 1. that the beginning
quantities are known; 2. that there has been a constant rate of decay, and 3. that the decaying process
has happened in a closed system.
The following story might show how such assumptions can lead to false conclusions:
Suppose you are returning to your home from a flight across the country and find it raining “cats and
dogs.”
Being curious as to how long the rain has been falling, you go outside with a yardstick and do some
measuring. It appears the rain is falling at a rate of 1 inch per hour.
You notice a barrel sitting by the side of the house. You put the yardstick into the barrel and find 36
inches of water in it. “Okay,” you say to yourself. “At a rate of one inch per hour, it must have been
raining for 36 hours.”
It is easy to see that our assumptions could lead to a conclusion that could be way off. First, how do we
know there wasn’t water, perhaps a considerable amount of water, in the barrel before the rain started
falling? How do we know the rain has been falling at a constant rate? How do we know that nobody for
some reason could have added tap water to the barrel after the rain had started?
Errors in radioisotope dating are likely for the same reasons. Dr. Austin tells of having rocks from the
same area of the Grand Canyon. Using different radioisotope methods, he came up with widely varying
dates as to the age of the rocks, from 0.84 billion years to 1.4 billion years. 3 LSI
Next
Why evolutionist scientists need long ages.
Some dating methods that show the earth’s age must be measured in thousands of years, not billions.
References
1. http://www.icr.org/article/mt-st-helens-catastrophism/
2. http://creation.com/surtsey-still-surprises
3. http://www.answersingenesis. org/media/video/ondemand/radioisotopes/radioisotopes-age-of-the-earth
(Photos from Wikimedia Commons)
Mount St. Helens,
Surtsey, and the
Age of the Earth
by Warren Krug
Surtsey, and the
Age of the Earth
by Warren Krug
On May 18, 1980 there was a tremendous explosion on a volcanic mountain in the
state of Washington. Initiated by an earthquake and a rockslide involving one-half
cubic mile of rock, the top and north slope of Mount St. Helens (picture, above) slid
off the mountain, releasing pressure in the form of steam, with energy equal to 20
million tons of TNT.
state of Washington. Initiated by an earthquake and a rockslide involving one-half
cubic mile of rock, the top and north slope of Mount St. Helens (picture, above) slid
off the mountain, releasing pressure in the form of steam, with energy equal to 20
million tons of TNT.
| North Fork Toutle River valley showing debris avalanche caused by the volcano. |
| Spirit Lake |
| Creation of Surtsey Island |
| Mount St. Helens Before the Blast |